It was on the 13th of June 1961…

“It was on the 13^th of August [1961], it wasn’t very early in the morning.  My father had a bakery over [on the other side of Bernauer Strasse] and anyway, uh, then he noticed around 7am all these cars, police cars, fire department there, and the people were all jumping out of windows in desperation, and my father saw [all of that]…  But he was still young at the time, my father, my parents…”   next